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    • CommentAuthormandy2310
    • CommentTimeOct 31st 2008
     
    I appreciate that people do not know what to say, while others want to talk about it all the time... in a bid to try and get the message across to people I have changed my status on facebook to save me saying the same thing over and over - things like - Back home - op went well.... those that know my situ should know what that means - yet ppl still ask how it went - I think ppl just like to ask to appear concerned - which I have no doubt they are, but there is so many times you can say the same thing over.
    The worst thing said to me tho was my dad... the day I was diagnosed - clearly upset, he said "that Jade Goodey got given 50/50 chance - have they given you any odds?" Luckily I know my dad and thats what he is like - think the worse and it can only get better.... hence why I didn't tell him about my lump until I knew what it was as he would have looked on the net and stressed me out more than I was already!
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    well this thread has cheered me up - I know its not just me.

    I have had loads of "chin up" - when did it fall down??? My hubby is treating me like a child and its driving me mad. people organising my life like I am now so ill/disabled that I can't function or make decisions. I have only just had my DX and the lump removed last week. No idea when rads or chemo but plans are already in place for when I am in a blubbering mess and need looking after. I know they mean well but having cancer does not make me lose control, I can make decisions.

    I keep getting the "you are brave" - we have just got over my son having surgeries due to kidney and bladder problems and got told that i developed my bravery there and it will carry my through - what a c**p parent would I be leaving my baby to go through that. And its not like I can leave the cancer and get on with it!!!

    My mother is a classic - while waiting for the result I had a conversation with her and she became the expert - knowing at least 100 people who had lumps but they were nothing and I should not worry, so when it turned out to BC she told me off for not going to the GP quick enough - can't win!!!

    I really want to get back to work ASAP - for my own sanity!!!!
    • CommentAuthormandy2310
    • CommentTimeNov 3rd 2008
     
    LOL.... Its like when you are diagnosed you should be ill... people can't understand why you are not sick and you can function like a "normal" person.... drink wine and socialise.... it makes me laugh!! My mother in law an hour after I left the doctor from being diagnosed said you must make a claim on critical illness, why can't they operate tonight, I think its bad they are making you wait a few weeks for an op.... bla bla bla..... On reading some of your threads clearly there are more important people than me needing to be seen faster.... even doctors have a priority list! It does make me mad!!! She gave me a list of things to sort out like I wasn't gonna make it.... Give me a chance for it to sink in for gods sake... all I wanted was treatment nothing else mattered!
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    Just on the topic of people saying you look well during treatment and then saying afterwards well actually you look better now...my friend who is always v honest said that during chemo/radio etc I never looked ill but I just didn't look like myself and she could tell a real difference a couple of months after treatment when I went back to "myself".

    Many of these misconceptions are the fault of the media, who portray even early, primary cancers as immediately halving your body weight and making you as white as a sheet

    Louise
    • CommentAuthormandy2310
    • CommentTimeNov 3rd 2008
     
    In my exerience when ppl say you look well, it means I look fat!!! LOL... sorry totally irrelevant But had to mention it as something else you shouldn't say!!
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    LOL Mandy, well I looked fat before so maybe they mean "even fatter"? Actually maybe people expect a fatty to be thinner (ie look nicer) and are relieved that I am still fatter than them lol.
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    its so daft - my friend keep checking I am still positive - like its a jab I've had and they are worried it will wear off!!!!

    My daughter is the best saying that if I lose my hair she thinks I will look like an alien and I should get a wig like Dolly parton - only because she is on Hannah Montana show - My daughters only 8!!!

    Its really strange that before I had BC I knew no one with it - except for my nanna - now everyone I tell knows someone.
    • CommentAuthormandy2310
    • CommentTimeNov 4th 2008
     
    My latest comment was from my cousin... "I must say you sound very positive - either that or you are trying to act brave - I hope you are genuinely positive"
    Would it help if I acted as a blithering wreck, would people then tell me to be poistive and brave!!!
    My neighbour saw me at the chemist yesterday and said "Its nice to see you out an about and you look so well" Actually my legs are fine and I can walk, and my boyfriend has to straighten my hair as I'm still sore from the op - being a mechanic he aint no hairdresser, and actually I look like crap as a result.... Bless him!
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    oh my hubby can't do that either!!! so glad its short enough for me to do my hair!!

    took my daughter back to school today and found that everyone was giving me the sickly sweet smile - they really don't know what to say!!!

    the best comment today - "if your going to get cancer, breast is the best you can get" - so ladies we have a quality cancer here - not a no frills kind - high class!! what stoped me from laughing at this I don't know!!!
    • CommentAuthorCat
    • CommentTimeNov 4th 2008
     
    Just stumbled across this thread by accident and it's really cheered me up. I'm so fed up of being told how brave I am, how amazingly well I cope, how lucky I am to have great bone structure to show off my bald head, and so on.

    Some of the worst things said to me since my diagnosis in July:

    "Just think about all the amazing things you've done and places you've been to before you died." - thanks, not dead yet.

    The day after mastectomy, I'm crying my eyes out in hospital, a friend texts and asks how I am, so I tell her. Her response, "Well, if you don't like it and it upsets you, just don't look at it, then." She is so off my Christmas card list.

    Mother-in-law: "All the adversity in your life has prepared you to be brave and cope with this." My response: what has prepared me to cope with the removal of a boob and baldness is the fact that my gorgeous eldest brother decided to tell us all last year that he likes to dress as a woman, so now we can go out together wearing falsies and wigs together. That silenced her.

    On a more positive note, one of my friend's 10-year-old daughter is so in love with my shaved head that she wants to shave her hair off to raise money for breast cancer awareness. She keeps telling her mum that she loves how I look and wants to look just like me (hopefully only being a baldie for sponsorship money, bless her).
    • CommentAuthormandy2310
    • CommentTimeNov 4th 2008
     
    My dad came out with the Breast is best comment too and he wasn't referring to feeding!!!!
    • CommentAuthorAnita67
    • CommentTimeNov 4th 2008
     
    I was on a girlies night out just about 3 weeks after my last chemo. I had a slight coverage of hair as it had started to grow back when I was on Taxotere.

    I saw an old chappie (known him 30 years) and he came up to me, rubbed the stubble on my head and said"What's this? -charity?" I said - "No - it's cancer" to that he said "You've put some bloody weight on haven't you?" I cannot type my response but he certainly knew how I felt. My friend said it was a good job he was in his 60's or else she would have slapped him!

    I can laugh about it now

    Anita
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    oh this post really is keeping me going!!! we should do a book - if netmums can do one why not us - it would be a best seller and would bring some money for the charity - what do you say powers that be?? I know lost the plot!!! men in white coats are on the way!!
    • CommentAuthorripley
    • CommentTimeNov 4th 2008
     
    My worst has got to be from someone who texted me when she'd heard and said "..some gossip about me - I had my t*ts done a few years ago"!!!! And she wasn't referring to preventative surgery!
    • CommentAuthorcb102
    • CommentTimeNov 4th 2008
     
    If anyone tells me I should be taking it easier and not work so hard and then stand by and let me load up the car, do a pile of ironing, cook tea for 5 and hold down a full time job I will kill them.

    Carol
    • CommentAuthormandy2310
    • CommentTimeNov 5th 2008
     
    I got told my a Nurse friend last night that I look really well..... Hmmmm My hair was a mess, I had no make up on and I looked like Crap..... I am starting to get a complex for the times when I think I look reasonably ok!!!!
    • CommentAuthorlol2705
    • CommentTimeNov 5th 2008
     
    I have just came off the phone from my auntie who was asking how i was and what was going on!! mum had told her that i was having tests tosee if i had BC. Was sitting reading this while she was on phone. She told me of 5 people who had BC and one lived til she was 95 tho had a mastectomy when she was 56. My sister died 17 years ago of BC and i had to relive that with her, then she said that things have changed over the years and i MUST stay positive!! Her son is getting married on Saturday and she says that we will not really be in the wedding mood will we. Beleive me i said that i was looking froward to it as i love a good wedding, however ALL my aunties are going to be there and i will be questioned all day from them, I know that they mean well but oh dear now i am not lookin forward to the wedding. They will be watching my every move and reminising about my sister. My poor mam n dad will get it too. My core biopsy is tomorrow and now i will also be asked about how it went. OH happy days!!
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    I have been reading these posts for a while now,and have plucked up the courage to join in!! I am awaiting a double mastectomy due to re-current dcis and lcis,and for me,this is the way forward.I thought I would be pro-active and see if there is any help available in the form of a temporary travel pass for afterwards when I am feeling up to going out but am not able to drive.The man in our local council was extremely helpful--NOT--after he asked if I was partially sighted,hard of hearing,or walked with a stick,all of which I answered no to,he asked what Was wrong with me then? I gave him the abridged version as he was a complete stranger,just I was having surgery for cancer.His reply-'well,its not as if its permanent,is it!!!
    • CommentAuthorgeewhiz
    • CommentTimeNov 17th 2008
     
    Hope this post is not too long, but wanted to share it:

    I Could Get Hit by a Bus Too
    by Susan Frisius
     
    “You never know when you're going to die, after all, I could get hit by a bus."
    Since I've never known anyone who has been hit by a bus, I don't understand why friends and acquaintances often say this when I first tell them I have breast cancer. Do they think the possibility of their being hit by a bus equals the possibility of my dying from cancer? Besides, I could get hit by a bus too.

    "You're lucky you have a treatable disease."
    Don't get me wrong. I'm thankful I wasn't told, "There's nothing we can do," but losing pieces of my body, having a radiation machine set off a nuclear war in my breast and getting my veins filled with toxic chemicals doesn't exactly make me feel lucky.

    "You'll be fine because you have a great attitude."
    If attitude really matters, why did I get cancer in the first place? Or does attitude only matter after you get cancer? Right now my attitude about cancer is lousy. So what does that mean?

    "Don't worry, if your time's not up, it's not up."
    If that's true, why did I bother with the surgery? Should I cancel the rest of my treatments? Do doctors perform surgery and give chemo and radiation for no good reason? After all, "if my time's up," treatments won't help.

    "I've read that anger and stress lead to cancer."
    Great! Now I caused my own cancer.

    "You should simplify your life."
    It's pretty simple now, all I seem to do is go to medical appointments.

    "I've read that people can keep cancer from coming back by changing their diet. Maybe you should try to improve yours since it didn't keep you from getting cancer. That's why I watch everything I eat."
    The person who tells me this knows I only eat natural foods, cook everything from scratch, don't eat junk foods and rarely eat meat. "You eat white pasta," she says when she sees my puzzled look. Of course, she eats white pasta too, but calls the flour "semolina." Does she really think if I had eaten pasta with "semolina" on the label I wouldn't now have cancer?

    One person says, "If you really want to live, you will. Just never give up. When people give up, they die."
    If I were hit and killed by a bus would she think I died because I gave up?

    Another person tells me to visualize the cancer shrinking. She says, "If you really work at it, you can eliminate it."

    Most conversations end with "call if you need anything." I don't have the energy to call anyone - I can hardly feed myself and get to my medical appointments.
    Why do intelligent and sensitive people who care about me say such things? Can they really believe I'm responsible both for my cancer and the outcome of my treatments?
    I think these people want to believe cancers are caused by a person's poor emotional state or diet. This lets them think they won't get cancer because they think they eat properly and handle their lives and emotions well. Unfortunately, it also makes them feel uncomfortable around me because they're afraid they'll find out their attitudes and diets are no better than mine. So I hear, "How can you be so cheerful?" and "All that yogurt can't be good for you," and "Put your daughters in foster care, they're too stressful for you."
    I have no doubt that everyone I talked to about my cancer was concerned about me and wanted to help me keep a positive outlook. I'm sure they were sincere when they said, "I'd like to have you over for dinner sometime, but I know everything makes you sick," or "It's good to see you out grocery shopping, I was worried because I hadn't seen you for a while."
    I'm sure friends would have been happy to help if I had called them and asked for assistance. Most likely they thought they were being considerate when they didn't visit or call "so I could rest." I think they just didn't know what to do or say.

    So what would help me while I'm being treated for cancer?

    Drop in or call. The only way you'll know what I need is if you keep in touch. Remember, if I'm out in the community, I'm well enough to be out. It's when you don't see me that I need your support.

    Don't wait for me or my immediate family to ask you for help. It takes too much energy and I don't like admitting I can no longer cope with everyday living. When you want to help, don't ask what I need, just do it. Bring me a meal (white pasta is fine), wash my floors while I sleep, take my children to a movie, get the oil changed in my car, pick up a few vegetables for me at a farm stand, change a burned out light bulb, take my empty yogurt container off the coffee table and throw it out.

    Don't minimize the illness that scrambles my life by telling me about simple causes and self cures. Everything I've held important has been touched by it - my ability to raise my children, my work, my independence, my social life.

    Don't let your fear of hearing about cancer keep you away. While cancer has become a big part of my life, it's not my whole existence and I am able to converse on other subjects.

    Remember my immediate family. My cancer affects them emotionally as much as it does me. My kids and parents need their friends' support now more than they ever did.

    If I let you know your company is too much for me at the time, come back. If I don't answer the phone, call again. I need to know I can count on you because I'm temporarily unable to count on myself.

    If you're feeling helpless because someone you know has cancer, don't. Take them a meal and eat it with them. Talk to them as you wash their dishes. Play a game with their kids so they can hear laughter. Pet their cat until it purrs. Bring over a book and read it to them. Both of you will feel better when you take action.
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    Well said Susan!

    Julie
    x
    • CommentAuthorjantharra
    • CommentTimeNov 17th 2008
     
    Hi Julie. thanks so much for sharing that, really funny and made me laugh.

    I just returned to work today first time since my 2nd diagnosis. Have been through the whole scary thing again, had 2 ops in last 4 weeks and the first chemo of 6. If one more person told me 'you looked tired' I was going to swing for them, really? No s*** you damned well try it and see how chipper you look pal!!

    (I know they care really, but sheeesh)

    Nikki